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	<title>Comments on: NSSpellServer tearing my hair out no more! (fixed in 10.5.7)</title>
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		<title>By: tench</title>
		<link>http://www.nanoant.com/apple/nsspellserver-guilty-of-tearing-my-hair-out/comment-page-1#comment-450</link>
		<dc:creator>tench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 06:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Adam, congratulations on getting Apple to get its act together. I&#039;m sure that if it hadn&#039;t been for you -- and your persistence -- they woud&#039;ve never fixed this. It&#039;s a small step for Apple, and a huge step for humanity :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Adam, congratulations on getting Apple to get its act together. I&#8217;m sure that if it hadn&#8217;t been for you &#8212; and your persistence &#8212; they woud&#8217;ve never fixed this. It&#8217;s a small step for Apple, and a huge step for humanity <img src='http://www.nanoant.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: 10.5.7 naprawia błąd przełączania sprawdzania pisowni między Polskim (CheckSpell lub CocoAspell) i wbudowanymi Apple - Apple Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.nanoant.com/apple/nsspellserver-guilty-of-tearing-my-hair-out/comment-page-1#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>10.5.7 naprawia błąd przełączania sprawdzania pisowni między Polskim (CheckSpell lub CocoAspell) i wbudowanymi Apple - Apple Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Więcej opisane po angielsku tutaj. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Więcej opisane po angielsku tutaj. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.nanoant.com/apple/nsspellserver-guilty-of-tearing-my-hair-out/comment-page-1#comment-447</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Steingrímur&lt;/strong&gt;: They have finally fixed it. Hooray! I just received mail from &lt;em&gt;Apple&lt;/em&gt; asking me to verify whether this bug has been fixed. So far it works as it should I can switch spelling in &lt;em&gt;Safari&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Mail&lt;/em&gt; w/o any problem or need to restart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Steingrímur</strong>: They have finally fixed it. Hooray! I just received mail from <em>Apple</em> asking me to verify whether this bug has been fixed. So far it works as it should I can switch spelling in <em>Safari</em> and <em>Mail</em> w/o any problem or need to restart.</p>
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		<title>By: Steingrímur Árnason</title>
		<link>http://www.nanoant.com/apple/nsspellserver-guilty-of-tearing-my-hair-out/comment-page-1#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>Steingrímur Árnason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, this problem was addressed in the 10.5.7 update released today. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, this problem was addressed in the 10.5.7 update released today. <img src='http://www.nanoant.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.nanoant.com/apple/nsspellserver-guilty-of-tearing-my-hair-out/comment-page-1#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jasonian:&lt;/strong&gt; Well my objective is not to slap Apple, rather just to get everybody know that the problem is a fault of Apple Mac OS X rather than Cocoaspell or CheckSpell software. Once many people that are annoyed get that, Apple may revise its mind and consider the bug important. Anyway doing anything is just IMHO better than nothing and getting pissed everyday with the annoying freaking bug! Yeah... I hate this bug, and is a small mf that stops me from loving OSX. (Ugh.. getting nervous maybe because of Clawfinger that&#039;s on here ;P)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jasonian:</strong> Well my objective is not to slap Apple, rather just to get everybody know that the problem is a fault of Apple Mac OS X rather than Cocoaspell or CheckSpell software. Once many people that are annoyed get that, Apple may revise its mind and consider the bug important. Anyway doing anything is just IMHO better than nothing and getting pissed everyday with the annoying freaking bug! Yeah&#8230; I hate this bug, and is a small mf that stops me from loving OSX. (Ugh.. getting nervous maybe because of Clawfinger that&#8217;s on here ;P)</p>
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		<title>By: Jasonian.</title>
		<link>http://www.nanoant.com/apple/nsspellserver-guilty-of-tearing-my-hair-out/comment-page-1#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasonian.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Apple never promises to fix any bug that exists, getting pissy with them probably doesn\&#039;t do much good. Plus, you don\&#039;t know why Apple hasn\&#039;t released a fix. It might be something that was resolved a long time ago and just hasn\&#039;t made it into a release, it may be that the problem isn\&#039;t considered important enough to fix now, or it may be that fixing it is more difficult than you imagine.  All that said, I hope if and when it\&#039;s finally fixed, you make as big a deal thanking Apple as you do slapping them.Â </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Apple never promises to fix any bug that exists, getting pissy with them probably doesn\&#8217;t do much good. Plus, you don\&#8217;t know why Apple hasn\&#8217;t released a fix. It might be something that was resolved a long time ago and just hasn\&#8217;t made it into a release, it may be that the problem isn\&#8217;t considered important enough to fix now, or it may be that fixing it is more difficult than you imagine.  All that said, I hope if and when it\&#8217;s finally fixed, you make as big a deal thanking Apple as you do slapping them.Â </p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have ADC account please fill a bug report at &lt;a href=&quot;http://bugreport.apple.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bugreport.apple.com&lt;/a&gt; and reference Problem ID 6206237</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have ADC account please fill a bug report at <a href="http://bugreport.apple.com/" rel="nofollow">bugreport.apple.com</a> and reference Problem ID 6206237</p>
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		<title>By: Sjur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sjur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Adam,

I just saw your posting on the cocoadev mailing list. I can only confirm the bug that you describe. I&#039;m heading a project developing Sámi proofing tools, and we have been looking at ways of delivering system-wide spell checking for Mac users.

The basic problem is of course the bug you report, and adding all languages to CheckSpell is no solution. Some users prefer one set of languages, and others another set - it has to be possible for different spellServer servers to coexist.

I see that CheckSpell is based on Hunspell, which is what we are using as well for our OpenOffice support. Do you know whether CheckSpell is open source? There is a rather new project on sourceforge trying to wrap Hunspell into a SpellServer API, called OpenXSpell. Even there Hunspell is used as the main (or rather first) speller engine being wrapped.

Eventually, Hunspell is not ideal for many languages including the Sámi ones, and we hope to develop our own speller engine. This only to emphasize the need for allowing several spellServer servers to run concurrently, and the requirement that it should be possible to switch among languages and speller servers on the fly, reliably, and at any given time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Adam,</p>
<p>I just saw your posting on the cocoadev mailing list. I can only confirm the bug that you describe. I&#8217;m heading a project developing Sámi proofing tools, and we have been looking at ways of delivering system-wide spell checking for Mac users.</p>
<p>The basic problem is of course the bug you report, and adding all languages to CheckSpell is no solution. Some users prefer one set of languages, and others another set &#8211; it has to be possible for different spellServer servers to coexist.</p>
<p>I see that CheckSpell is based on Hunspell, which is what we are using as well for our OpenOffice support. Do you know whether CheckSpell is open source? There is a rather new project on sourceforge trying to wrap Hunspell into a SpellServer API, called OpenXSpell. Even there Hunspell is used as the main (or rather first) speller engine being wrapped.</p>
<p>Eventually, Hunspell is not ideal for many languages including the Sámi ones, and we hope to develop our own speller engine. This only to emphasize the need for allowing several spellServer servers to run concurrently, and the requirement that it should be possible to switch among languages and speller servers on the fly, reliably, and at any given time.</p>
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		<title>By: Steingrímur Árnason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steingrímur Árnason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also a developer of a 3rd party spelling service for Mac OS X and have the same issue.
Can you please publish the Radar (bugreporter.apple.com) ID number so I can ask Apple about it? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also a developer of a 3rd party spelling service for Mac OS X and have the same issue.<br />
Can you please publish the Radar (bugreporter.apple.com) ID number so I can ask Apple about it? </p>
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		<title>By: tench</title>
		<link>http://www.nanoant.com/apple/nsspellserver-guilty-of-tearing-my-hair-out/comment-page-1#comment-404</link>
		<dc:creator>tench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know, i definitely experienced the switch problem with cocoAspell as well. i will test checkspell later -- i&#039;m very curious. i will keep my fingers crossed that apple gets its act together. (admittedly, in their attempt to simplify things for the user, they did introduce the multilingual mode for spell-checking, which works reasonably well... especially in single-language documents, BUT they forgot that that works only for the languages which they officially support... which leaves many of us in the dark...) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know, i definitely experienced the switch problem with cocoAspell as well. i will test checkspell later &#8212; i&#8217;m very curious. i will keep my fingers crossed that apple gets its act together. (admittedly, in their attempt to simplify things for the user, they did introduce the multilingual mode for spell-checking, which works reasonably well&#8230; especially in single-language documents, BUT they forgot that that works only for the languages which they officially support&#8230; which leaves many of us in the dark&#8230;) </p>
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